I have been asked to write a blog post about which and that. Frankly, I would prefer to avoid that issue altogether and do something more enjoyable–—pulling weeds or cleaning my house, for example. But here goes…..
Which, who, and that introduce adjective clauses, which describe some noun in the sentence, usually the once preceding the clause. Here are some examples:
- My uncle, who works in Hollywood, is coming to visit. (describes uncle)
- The kids who are standing on the corner go to my school. (describes kids)
- The dress that is in the window is beautiful and very expensive. (describes dress)
- My car, which is in the garage, needs new brakes. (describes car)
- The tribes that live in Connecticut are listed in Chapter 7. (describes tribes)
But now….when do you use which? that? who?
When do you use a comma around the clause and when don’t you?
Allow me to explain:
Which is generally used for things and animals, not for people.
Who is always used for people.
That can be used for people or things, but is generally used for things. That can be used for species or types of people.
Examples:
- The car, which is in in the garage, needs new brakes.
- My uncle, who is an actor, is visiting next month.
- The book that is on the table is a bestseller.
- The tribes that live in Connecticut are described in Chapter 7.
OK. Now, why are there sometimes commas around the clause and sometimes not?
Commas are used around nonessential clauses. These are clauses that could be left out without affecting the meaning of the sentence. The words in the clause are added information.
There are no commas around essential clauses. These clauses cannot be left out because they limit the noun they are modifying.
Examples:
- The kids that are on the street corner go to my school. (The clause that are on the street corner tells which kids. You need that clause in the sentence, so you do not use commas around it.)
- The kids on the street corner, who go to my school, are drawing on the sidewalk. (The clause who go to my school is added information. We already know which kids you are talking about. The clause can be thought of as “by the way, they go to my school.”)
Notice that for essential clauses (where there are no commas), that is generally used for things.
Also notice that for nonessential clauses (where the commas are used), which is generally used for things.
Who can be used with both essential and unessential clauses. Examples:
- My brother, who goes to college in Georgia, is coming home for the summer.
- The boy who is making the speech is the valedictorian. (need the clause to identify which boy)
Exceptions? Of course! You can sometimes use which without the commas (nonessential clauses). Examples:
- She is taking the clothes which fit her the best and which don’t wrinkle. (If there are two nonessential clauses in the sentence, which is often used to introduce them.
- That is a book which everyone should read. (If that is already used at the beginning of the sentence, which can be used.
Note that is is not wrong to use that in the above two examples.
So….to sum up:
Who is used for people.
Which is used for things.
That is usually used for things, but can be used for people, especially for types or groups.
Who is used both with and without commas.
Which is usually used with commas (added information).
That is usually used without commas (limits what is being talked about and usually is necessary for meaning of sentence).
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Barbara Toboni says
Wow! Very helpful, Arlene. I am so glad that you didn’t pull weeds!
Arlene Miller says
Thanks, Barbara. Actually, I just hired someone to pull the weeds! Now I can write blog posts!
Debra Koehler says
Hi Arlene,
Love reading your blog. I have a question about hyphens used between two words. I was taught (back in the Dino-Days!) that two words used together, like “well-developed” or “soft-focus”, require a hyphen between them. Lately, however, most of the novels I read don’t put the hyphen in. Is this a changed way of doing things?
Arlene Miller says
Generally, these compound adjectives are hyphenated when placed before the noun they modify, and they are not hyphenated if they appear after the noun.
For example:
I would like a soft-focus camera adjustment.
I would like the camera adjustent to be soft focus.
However, certain prefixes like well and self, are generally hyphenated wherever they appear.
Debra Koehler says
Thanks!
Jennifer from SD says
I, too, am thankful for these lessons. Can your example be written as followed?
◾The tribes who live in Connecticut are described in Chapter 7.
Arlene Miller says
Hi Jennifer! Yes, I believe you could also use WHO in the example. It was an example of using THAT with people, but you can always use WHO with people.
Arletta Dawdy says
As always, a very helpful blog. I’m happy to have both of your grammar books at my side…and owe you a review!
A question: you used unessential and nonessential above….different uses? I use nonessential exclusively.
Arlene Miller says
A typo. It is nonessential. I hate proofing my own stuff!! Thank you!
Kent Sorensen says
“The Grammar Diva” is quickly becoming my most valued blog site to view. It should be a must for all writers regardless if they’re well published or not. There’s always a pearl of wisdom to be found in the bolg that triggers the thought, “Oh, yeah, now I remember.”
Arlene Miller says
Thank you so much, Kent!! I so appreciate your opinion, since you are one fantastic writer!
Victoria M. Johnson says
Arlene–
Thank you for explaining all this! Very useful.
Victoria–
Arlene Miller says
You are very welcome! Glad you are reading the blog!
Sandy Baker says
Yup, thank you exactly what I’d discussed with a friend some time ago who insisted It was totally grammatically wrong to ever use that with people. Now, how about addressing the use of possessives and possessive pronouns with gerunds and gerundial phrases?
Arlene Miller says
I don’t like using that with people, but it is OK sometimes. Possessives and possessive pronouns with gerunds….another of my favorite subjects. I will do a blog post on it as soon as I understand it!!